Monday, June 15, 2009

Come n Hermit be Reasonable

I just don't think I should have to go back and qualify everything thing in the same way every single time. I have said this over and over and over. why do I have to say it every single time?

I am not saying that all atheists are a hate group. I never said, that's i've repudiated that. I've never said it. I've always denied saying it. I've been very very careful to always say "this is isn't all atheists just a certain segment.

Now I think ti's really totally unfair that you expect me to admit that there are nut job extremists in the Christian camp. But I can't recognize the same thing for the atheist camp without certain atheists expanding it to all atheists and saying I"m treating them hatefully. Why would I post Hermit's stuff every single day. He sends about eight posts an day and i"ve never turned them down. I am clearly including him in the blogs and that's not enough.

If I am willing to qualify my statements why can't he respect that?

Or is it that it struck a nerve. Maybe he's what I'm talking about? Maybe it's really atheists he's angry at. I did not say one work to imply that he is one of the extremists. I usually call them "Dawkamentlaists" to show they are a totally different group.

I even took down the links that he thought were offensive. what more do you want man.I don't have the freedom of speech to observe that some little segment of atheists are extremists? Its' a lot more than that Zhavric guy. I can find them on every atheist board.

this is an emotional tantrum.

6 comments:

A Hermit said...

Face it, you're a hatemonger.

You defend the paedophile enabling priest who called me "less than fully human" and tell me I'm part of a hate group for objecting to that vile insult, you make a chart that equates atheism (not "some atheism" not "extreme atheism" just "atheism") with Nazism just because that pinhead Zhavric (whom, you may have noticed isn't all that popular withe the other atheists at CARM...Hans, Brendan and others, including me, have taken him to task regularly for some his nonsense) said something stupid.

The reason you and Zhavric dislike each other so much is that you are so much alike...angry, insecure little men who need to invent whole categories of people to look down on so you can feel better about yourselves.

You are a hatemonger.

J.L. Hinman said...

If you point out an ideology then you are being hateful.


so the Southern poverty law people must be a real hate group right?

so how come it's ok for atheists to make socialicioligcal observation like Zuckerman but if christians do it we are being hateful?


You are trying to control my content and you have no real passion you are merely being propagandists. I doubt your sincerity you are merely tryign to control waht I do.

A Hermit said...

"If you point out an ideology then you are being hateful. "

You think it's hateful for someone to object to being called "less than fully human..."

You're not pointing out an ideology, Joe, you're trying to blow the ignorant comments of one person into a generalization. Your qualifications don't cut it with me any more than those of a racist who says "not all Jews are greedy bankers but look at those greedy Jews over there..."

And even if we agree that there are some atheists who are hateful (which I do); even if we agree that they constitute an organized group (which I don't buy) to equate them to Nazis is a gross exaggeration, to say the least. It's inflammatory, deliberately provocative and offensive. And I'm not going to stop asking you to knock it off. I object to Christian extremism, but except in the case of actual Nazis you won't find me calling people Nazis, or comparing their beliefs to Nazism.

I am not out to control you, but I'm not here to be some kind of "token atheist" either; I am going to speak up when you thank people for comments in which I am called "clueless" and "irrational", when you defend people calling me "less than fully human" and when you carelessly link my beliefs with Nazism.

These are hateful acts on your part and I'm not going to be patted on the head and told to be "reasonable" in response to your hatred.

J.L. Hinman said...

f you point out an ideology then you are being hateful. "

You think it's hateful for someone to object to being called "less than fully human..."

You're not pointing out an ideology, Joe, you're trying to blow the ignorant comments of one person into a generalization.


>>>you don't know what I'm trying to do. you are trying to destroy my board. you would find something to bitch about.






Your qualifications don't cut it with me any more than those of a racist who says "not all Jews are greedy bankers but look at those greedy Jews over there..."


>>that's stupid! you don't have any credentials you don't know sociology you don't' shit about sociology.

And even if we agree that there are some atheists who are hateful (which I do); even if we agree that they constitute an organized group (which I don't buy) to equate them to Nazis is a gross exaggeration, to say the least. It's inflammatory, deliberately provocative and offensive. And I'm not going to stop asking you to knock it off. I object to Christian extremism, but except in the case of actual Nazis you won't find me calling people Nazis, or comparing their beliefs to Nazism.


I'm not equaiting them with nazi think how stupid you are being. I also had black Muslims, feminsts and communists as exapmle. I was a commuunist, so obvoulsy I'm not equating them with nazis.

you are so obviously just trying to kick up problems so you can control the board..


I am not out to control you, but I'm not here to be some kind of "token atheist" either; I am going to speak up when you thank people for comments in which I am called "clueless" and "irrational", when you defend people calling me "less than fully human" and when you carelessly link my beliefs with Nazism.

you are going to speak up when you have emotional venting to do but you are not going to think critically about it.


These are hateful acts on your part and I'm not going to be patted on the head and told to be "reasonable" in response to your hatred.


why are you being so stupid? you are not atupid person bu tyour're being hysterical. Why would I include Marxists when I was one? I don't see commies as nazis. I think they are a lot better.

I'll do another chart and use democrats, republicans and Christians. will that make you feel better?

A Hermit said...

"
I'll do another chart and use democrats, republicans and Christians. will that make you feel better?"


Not as long as you're defending your bigoted Cardinal, thanking people for calling me names and throwing your own tantrums at Zhavric for doing exactly the same kind of stuff you're doing here (he qualified his statement, too by the way...did you miss it?)

J.L. Hinman said...

knock it off man. what a martyer. grow up. you are such whiner. I haven't' come near treating you the way those pieces of shit have treated me on infidel guy, secular web, carm stupidity.com all the other hate group atheism sites. no where near!

I have the right to my analysis if you don't like it move on.