Atheists Still Deny the Hate While Demontrating it At the Same Time

Evidence of the effect of this board. I was really the frist to open start saying that atheism is a hate group. Maybe some fundies said it too, but I think I was the first to get serious about it. But that seems to have had an effect far beyond this blog. Now that effect has not been to change their behavior, but hey has evoked many many denials.


The Board Ahteist Revolution says:

Any Hate Groups Near You?



Religion may be an important factor in perpetuating hatred and intolerance, but it is certainly not the only one. Here in Mississippi, we know a thing or two about hate groups. Believe it or not, the Klan is still alive, and we still have some misguided folks who think the Confederacy is a source of pride.

That site is a good example of the hate group aspects. Their legend reads: "Breaking free form irrational belief and opposing Chrsitian extremes in America."

I think one quality of the hate aspect is perpetuating the idea that "Christianity" (whatever that is, the whole faith all over the world throughout history? or jut the fundies?) is a force of irrational ideas filled with extremes, but of course atheism is a voice of rationality--even though they can't bother themselves to read a single page of theology or look up one study.

In article they had about "what do Atheists think of Christians" they start out assuming the worst, stereo-typing Chrsitian views:

It seems that we atheists rarely have to wonder what some Christians think of us because we are often being told exactly what they think of us. But how about Christians? It is only natural that some might wonder what we think of them.

Where it says "what they think of us" they link to a statement on You Tube by a Catholic Cardinal, "Watch as a high-ranking Catholic official, Cardinal Cormack Murphy-O'Connor, clearly indicates that he does not consider atheists to be fully human." What the Cardinal says they have taken so totally out of context that its obvious they are missing the obvious. The reason is not far to seek. They don't understand what the guy means when he speaks of "understanding humanity." What he said was essentially that you can't understand the nature of humanity if you leave out the divine." They twist that to mean "atheists aren't really human." They cease upon one little glitch to make that seem so obvious when it's not. He said:

Impoverished understanding of what humanity is...There is a diminishing of what is human if they leave out the transcendent...if you leave that out than you are not fully human.

What he's saying is diminishing the understand not the humanity. He's not saying they are literally not human, he's talking about their understanding of being human! But they twist that to get the greatest millage.

That is a hate tactic because it stems form distrust, they want to interpret him in the worst possible way. They use it as propaganda, so they are in effect saying, they think this of us so let's think that of them. What really clenches it is how he uses this as an excuse to deny any rational dialog:

Am I really to attempt meaningful dialogue with such a man? I think not. How could I possibly expect it to lead anywhere positive? I would not expect it to be any more fruitful than it would for my Jewish colleagues to attempt the same with a Nazi or my African American colleagues to try it with a Klan leader.

When one side refuses to acknowledge even the basic humanity of the other, the barrier to bloodshed is thin indeed.

Be sure we don't straighten it out. Let's don't' try to reach a dialogue with these guys now. These are all hate group tacit. These are classic moves that any agent provocateur would know.