I know it seems like I'm just railing against individuals on CARM. They are not all on CARM. yet the problem is I can't conduct a study becuase I don't have money and I don't have the connections to a universe anymore. One can see thousands of examples of what what I'm discusing all over the net. I can't present a thousand examples in one post. I do the participant observer thing and show one example that typifies the many. Over time you see the accumulation and you see it builds up. I have now demonstrated (given the original version of the website that's gone and this one) several hundred examples: hateful, childish, silly, unthinking, unlearned little hate group member sounding off about things he knows not of. One can easily verify the view point by going to the net.
On every message board where atheists gather, every single day of the world we find silly stupid people echoing fallacious ideas and ignorant bigotry agaisnt a world view they dedicating to not learning about. They even encode their ignorance in an official justification for not learning called "the Courtier's reply" which is nothing more than excuse to not look into the facts and ignore the disproof of their fallacious position.
*Atheists use the Courtier's replay as a party line excuse to remain ignorant
*Many atheists as a party line sanctioning hate tactics and hate speech
*they demonstrate a huge amount of organization and money
*Some demonstrate a belief in the genetic superiority of atheists
*some have advocated forcing in forcing their position on the hatred target group of Christianity
*They a vast propaganda machine in the from of magazines, websites, academic projects
It's so obvious it's a movement only an ostrich could mistake it. It's clear that we need an Atheistwatch to keep the thinking community a prized of the movement and what it's doing to destroy the most important aspects of life.
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Ah, another baseless rant against atheism and atheists. Yeah, the world is in huge danger from the tiny minority of atheists, and all that stands between freedom and the hell that is atheism is you and your Atheistwatch.
What a pity you don't actually do anything except whine about atheists, almost invariably without any basis at all.
so why can't you explain to me how they just happened to get all those lawyers in suit after suit to be for the atheist ideas if there's no movement there to raise the money?
How do you explain skeptical inquirer magazine? If the Jesus myth project is going on now what makes you think the Jesus seminary wasn't also an atheist gig?
It's a good strategy for a political activist to mock and ridicule the expose and pretend like its' some paranoid crack pot. that's effective but it also means you are just ignoring tons of evidence.
so why can't you explain to me how they just happened to get all those lawyers in suit after suit to be for the atheist ideas if there's no movement there to raise the money?
What lawyers? What are you talking about? What "why can't you explain..."? You've never mentioned anything about this to me before, so why are you telling me I can't explain it?
Do you really think that there's some covert movement of atheists who meet secretly and don't want anybody to know? They raise money for some lawyers for something? You seriously believe that?
I know of no suits whatsoever that are for "the atheist ideas". And there are no "atheist ideas", for that matter. There is just one "atheist idea" - that's a lack of belief in the existence of gods.
How do you explain skeptical inquirer magazine? If the Jesus myth project is going on now what makes you think the Jesus seminary wasn't also an atheist gig?
What do you mean how do I explain Skeptical Inquirer magazine? It's a magazine. What's to explain? I've no idea what the "Jesus myth project" is. And are you really suggesting that the Jesus seminary was "an atheist gig"? You are making less and less sense as you go along - you're seeing imaginary atheists and atheist conspiracies everywhere you look.
It's a good strategy for a political activist to mock and ridicule the expose and pretend like its' some paranoid crack pot.
Is it? I wouldn't know, not being a political activist. And I'm sorry, but what you are talking about is some paranoid crackpot notion. You haven't got any 'expose'. You've got absolutely zero evidence to support your claim.
that's effective but it also means you are just ignoring tons of evidence.
There is no evidence. You can't come up with any, and haven't. A magazine exists? Some people have brought law suits? This is seriously your evidence?
There is no atheist conspiracy. There is no grand secret society of atheists who are trying to overthrow Christianity, or the western world, or whatever you think they are trying to do.'
There are a few - somewhere between 5% and 10%, I'm guessing - people who are atheists. Some of them like to argue on the net and in other places. Some are very vocal. I'm sorry to tell you that that doesn't add up to any of your conspiracy theories.
Perhaps when you get some actual evidence...
Obviously I've done posts on those things before. They weren't that long ago.
Actual atheists are three percent. Before you ridicule my view as a paranoia about secret conspiracies why don't read what I said about it first?
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Obviously I've done posts on those things before. They weren't that long ago.
And equally obviously your posts then were as much nonsense as your posts now on the subject are.
Actual atheists are three percent.
No, atheists are around 10-15%. That's consistent pretty much across the western world.
Before you ridicule my view as a paranoia about secret conspiracies why don't read what I said about it first?
I read it. It's more nonsense. You point to a couple of organisations and claim that they somehow represent atheism. Do you realise how ludicrous that is? Even at your very dubious 3% figure, that means there are At 10%, that means there are 10 million atheists in the US alone. Even if only a hundredth of that 10 million are involved in these organisations - that's 100,000 people. Do you really seriously suggest that 100,000 people are involved in the couple of organisations you mention? And even if 100,000 were involved in them, that's about 1% of the atheists in the US. 1% of group cannot be said to be representative of that group. And that's using your 3% figure. A more realistic figure of around 10% triples those numbers.
Nobody has ever said that there are no atheist organisations. What every body has said and will keep repeating is the obvious fact that atheism is not organised; there is no dogma. It is not remotely an organised movement. I know you want it to be, so you have some concrete enemy to fight against, but it's not. Sorry. I know this won't stop you - you have long passed rationality on this subject. But I'll keep giving the facts, anyway.
No, atheists are around 10-15%. That's consistent pretty much across the western world.
No, you are wrong. you are in a 3% fringe group no one listens to or likes.
four major studies confirm this. you are quoting figures your atheist handlers have fed you that do not distingiush between real atheist and anyone who is just possed at orgnaized reilgion. When that distinction is made actula atheists are only about 3%. I will give 6% at most for the margin of error.
the best study was Pew charitable trust study it says they are 1.6%
Meta said:"Before you ridicule my view as a paranoia about secret conspiracies why don't read what I said about it first?"
I read it. It's more nonsense. You point to a couple of organisations and claim that they somehow represent atheism.
Yea just a couple of organizations. a magazine with a huge circulation, about 30 major law suites (that would be millions of dollars) 10 major organizations, and phony academic project involving several major universities.
Do you realise how ludicrous that is?
why? you haven't said anyting. all you are sayin gso far is "I refuse to believe it has to be stupid becuase it's againsst what I like give me a real reason
Even at your very dubious 3% figure, that means there are At 10%, that means there are 10 million atheists in the US alone.
HU? 10 million in a country over 240 million in fact I think it's more 260 million, that's the same amount as communists in the red baiting era. So you have much success as communism did under Reagan.
Even if only a hundredth of that 10 million are involved in these organisations - that's 100,000 people. Do you really seriously suggest that 100,000 people are involved in the couple of organisations you mention?
Do you just no understand what reasoning is? that's Blantyre stupid. why would even a retard ate conclude that every single atheist was in an academic orgnaization?
how did they get the money for the law suits. do you not understand how expensive it is?
I explicitly repudiated the cnocept fo a secret consipricy stupid! are you just palin idiotic? can't you read? I said it's trucking movement stupid.
the rest of your drivel not worth answering.
Nobody has ever said that there are no atheist organisations. What every body has said and will keep repeating is the obvious fact that atheism is not organised; there is no dogma. It is not remotely an organised movement. I know you want it to be, so you have some concrete enemy to fight against, but it's not. Sorry. I know this won't stop you - you have long passed rationality on this subject. But I'll keep giving the facts, anyway.
Ludicrously stupid. what you describe is movement then you say there's no movement. everyone says the same things then you say thers' no dogma.
you are only fooling yourselves. the little brain washed zombies of atheist mark in lock step ever depart from the script then claim you don't have dogma, unison, same worse, sasme slogans. but it's not a dogam. what a dumb ass.
wise up stupid.
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