Tuesday, July 7, 2009

Atheists Are Afraid of Being Human

A thread on CARM designed to mock the idea of feeling that God loves one, demonstrates the extreme of fear of their own feelings that many atheists exhibit. It think this shows more than anything that the atheist craving for "science" and "Hard data" and their protestations about theology being made up is just a maks for the fact that they are being convicted by the Holy Spirit so they are scared to death of feelings.

Dr. Pepper Begins the thread by demonstrated a disdain for personal feelings dealing with God's love:

It appears that theists see God’s love as specific for themselves as individuals or for their group. This strikes me as extremely ego centric and petty. How many times have you heard God has saved ME from some destructive behavior or accident even though others are not as fortunate? God cares about ME. Isn’t he on the side of MY country, state, town, team, family, or religion? If something horrible should happen it is his will. He still LOVES me. What is it that convinces you this is true? What objective evidence do you see that others do not and why should God care more for you and those you know?


All their brave talk about proof and hard data is just a facade, a screen to hide behind so we don't see that they are scared to death to confront feelings because they are hiding form God's conviction. But this fear of the subjective masks something else. There is an issue that ties atheists to their dread of the subjective and it is related to their resentment of God: They hate themselves. I know this is doesn't apply to all. I need to state point blank for the literal minded I'm not saying this is true in every single case. But I do think it's true in many cases. Because they hate themselves they are not willing to believe that God could love them without their having to earn it. This also explains their desire to feel Superior which I have commented upon many times.. Often when people hate themselves the project that hate outwardly, so they target as their group for hating and feeling superior to the group that is most comfortable with God's love. They hate the people who can accept their inner feelings and feel good about being loved by God.

According to Nicholas Rescher:

Atheists are not infrequently people on whose innmost nature The vice of self contempt has it's strongest hold. Pretensions to the contrary not withstanding, the atheist's actual posture is not a self confident independence of spirit but a fear of being judged.





I chide them for mocking people's most sacred feeings and another one, "super Genyus" (did that name) says:

You'll get over it. I don't see anything wrong with criticizing someone's feelings when they are egotistical, petty, and just plain ridiculous.


this is coming from a guy who calls himself "super genyus"

DP says:

Should be careful here I think. There are people who are not stable or do not think like normal folk. (whatever that means). Remember the girl that committed suicide because somebody insulted her. You get all sorts of nut cases in these forums. I could name a few. It seems the more religious you are the worse the situation too.


So personal private deep seated feelings are just instabilities that have to managed with a rigidity.

4 comments:

A Hermit said...

Funny; I see believers as the ones operating out of fear; fear of nature, fear of reality, fear of their own humanity. That's why you go to such lengths to invent gods with which to comfort yourselves.

Maybe you should drop the amateur psychoanalysis bit, Joe...frankly you're not very good at it...;-)

J.L. Hinman said...

I'm quoting experts buddy boy.

O right and you are?

cipher said...

There is an issue that ties atheists to their dread of the subjective and it is related to their resentment of God: They hate themselves.

No, it's you fundies who hate yourselves, which is why the notion that you are born deserving nothing better than eternal damnation makes such perfect sense to you. Your theology has been shaped, from Augustine on, by some of the most profoundly self-loathing personalities in history.

And if you're going to blog, use a damn spell-checker.

J.L. Hinman said...

No, it's you fundies who hate yourselves, which is why the notion that you are born deserving nothing better than eternal damnation makes such perfect sense to you.

ahaha you don't know a fundie is. You don't know the difference in a fundamentalist and a liberal.

I don't believe in hell. What does that make me, can you guess? Do fundies believe in hell or not?





Your theology has been shaped, from Augustine on, by some of the most profoundly self-loathing personalities in history.

I doubt very seriously that you have ever read Austine. I am also certain you have no idea what effect he has had on my theology.

And if you're going to blog, use a damn spell-checker.

I use fire fox,. do you know what that is. can't you not figure out that I don't see the words the way you do. You are too stupid to know what that means?