Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Rex Chimes In

Rex makes his responses to the Gardener article. These responses are so ideologically typical. I don't mean to single Rex out by he did add a comment so this is my answer:

You still have no proof that god exists.



Which is irrelevant because it has nothing to with Jesus existing as a man in history. It's also absurd to make that an issue since God can't be the object of empirical investigation.


Evidently, you have a bunch of "scowlers" who share your delusions, but arguing over 1500 year old hearsay, is not evidence, or truth, or anything new.


another ignorance display. What's heretical about it? Why would being old make it wrong. Why does truth change over time?


Tell me that god appeared to the UN, and that, during his speech, he created a new continent in the Pacific, and that we have a new moon in orbit around Earth, and he moved a couple of interesting stars close enough to us so that we could study them better, then I will believe in your god. Until then, I will continue to think that you suffer from the same delusions of your ancestors.



what planet does this guy live on? Why are atheist like this? He apprentice thinks that if God exists he's suppose to do earth shattering things no one could deny. Why is it so hard for the fathom the concept that we are supposes to search for truth and not supposed to be something we can't deny why is that so hard to understand? Apparently these hate group types are short on imagination and want everything to be tucked away neatly with no ambiguity. Strange attitude for "free thinkers."





I understand that you choose to believe in the tooth fairy, but I don't.


obviously an attitude of hate. he can't just accept that some people believe things he doesn't believe. If you don't accept his belief then your belief system must be stupid and he has to run you down. What's odd is that most atheists on the net can't understand how this is response of hate but what else could it be? he's showing nothing but pure content for anyone who doesn't accept his world view. Deriding and belittling other people's understanding of the world, and why would he think that somehow I am asking him to believe what I believe? where did that "I don't," come from? That's supposed to rally prove it. "What I believe is obviously true and if you don't accept it you are an idiot."



All of your "evidence" is hearsay.


In order to know that you would have to know what my evidence is! I am betting you would rather hard pressed to tell me what one piece of my evidence is.


No matter who your "scholars" are, they are all working off of thousand year old texts, "written" by illiterates, decades after the supposed events took place.



a thousand year old text? can't you count? why would being old make it false? That's so stupid. Otherwise he's going to criticize the gospels for being written after the events but then he turns around and seems to say being older makes it less true!


If god really existed, and he wanted us to worship him correctly, he would appear to us regularly, and guide us as to how to do it correctly.


this is such typical stupidity. Such an illogical argument. If God really existed he would become a man in history and die for our sins."

"well, Jesus did that"

"are you a fool, Jesus couldn't be the son of God, he didn't exist, you can't prove Existed and he lived a long time ago."

how about this one, "you can't prove Jesus was the son of God"

"how do you know that?"

"because he lived a long time ago"

what's with this tendency to second guess what God would do. "If God existed he wasn't give me a test he would show me up front, so therefore, this can't be a test so I refuse to believe."

it's such circular reasoning!


His lack of appearances that can be verified objectively, speak to the fact that either he doesn't care about us, or more likely, he doesn't exist.


see what I mean? Jesus could be verified objectively?" why would God have to be verified objectively? what if he wants you to have faith? "O he can't do that that would mean I have to actually make a commitment to a faith concept."


I have not turned every stone in the universe, so I cannot say that I know for sure. If you say that you know for sure, you are engaging in the most pernicious form of wishful thinking, and outright lying, in the history of mankind, and deep down, you know it. That knowledge, and the knowledge of your mortality drive you to defend your fairy tale at the top of your lungs!



how do you prove anyone is lying? Since you admit you don't if God exists or not why don't you try to think about the evidence that I do give. try to read some books get some intellectual background (lost cause I know) so you understand the arguments, so you at least wont dismissing them out of hand. the typical atheist dismissing God argument because they are about God, regardless of weather they prove anything or not.

I am sorry for you that you can't accept that we will not ever truly have all of the answers in our lifetimes, but to claim to have them all is intellectually bankrupt.


But I do have the answers i need. why should I discord what works for me? why should I give up something to satisfy your anger when ti's gotten me total joy and vast sense of happiness and life transformation?


The time has come to draw back the curtain that covers the sham that religion has been since the dawn of Man, and allow Humans to step into the light of the truth without the tooth fairy.


you mean you would actually be willing to read a books and learn some logic and try generate an IQ point or two worth of thought about God arguemnts? I will be happy to walk you through some God arguments if you are willing to shed your ignorant hateful little act and actually try to think about it? how about it?


We don't have all of the answers, but that is the point, we seek them, and we know that the ones that are from antiquity ring false. Geocentrism, anyone?


you seek answers unless they lead toward belief in God, which you don't want becuase he wont let you screw or be gay so you just wont think about it right? The gencentrism crack but your stupid little head where your cake hole is ok? you have zero learning in terms of religious thinkers. until you actually read a page or two of modern theology you have no right to say such things. stop being an idiot and learn something.

how do I define "idiot?" Not as someone can't learn. I'm sure you could if you would stop throwing your little tantrum and actually educate yourself. But you are so busy trying force God do things your way that you can't think logically. If you want ot learn to think like a real thinker I'll teach you. I'm sure you have the generic ability. I'm just being honest.

I don't' hate you like you hate me. But I'm not going to try and place your childish little anger. if you can't honesty and truth then fuck you. you don't have the right to say these insulting idiotic things. you are a brain washed lackey of a hate group.


Beware of anyone who claims to have all of the answers, because he is playing on your fears to manipulate you. It is after all, the oldest human trick in the book.



you claim to have all the answers. you claim to know what I feel and what I know and what I think. Truth is you don't know spit about Christianity. you maybe have gone to chruch but I bet you slept through every service. you have clearly not a read any books on modern theology.

9 comments:

Metacrock said...

I know a bunch of people will say "you should make nice with them. Be nice and don't offend anyone. that's love. no that's not love. Love is doing what's good for the other.

its' not good for the other to pretend that they know something when they are merely blathering hate group garbage.

someone has to start talking tough with these mindless mentions of the hate group.

ZDENNY said...

I think you are correct to say that we need to speak the truth in love.

My experience with Atheists is that they engage in a lot of ad hominem and rarely address any substance.

Great post!

Rex said...

Thank you for making me look so good on your blog. I know it wasn't your intent, but after I stopped laughing at how stupid you made yourself look and how good my comments made me look, I was really encouraged to start my own.

You can find it here: http://atheistrex.blogspot.com

It is empty for now, but you can bet I will be featuring this post of yours before I move on to more challenging thinkers than you.

Besides, I think it will be fun to start my blog off with a good laugh at the insanity of the superstitious!

BTW, if you are brave enough to venture over to my neck of the woods, you will find my comments unmoderated. I am not afraid of everyone seeing the back and forth.

Rex said...

I can't leave it alone!

You always get mad at me when I give you shit about the way you write, but dude, what the FUCK does this mean?:

"you seek answers unless they lead toward belief in God, which you don't want becuase he wont let you screw or be gay so you just wont think about it right? The gencentrism crack but your stupid little head where your cake hole is ok? you have zero learning in terms of religious thinkers. until you actually read a page or two of modern theology you have no right to say such things. stop being an idiot and learn something."

This is better than Ray Comfort and the banana story! ROFL!

The cake hole sentence is actually my favorite!

Metacrock said...

mine too

Metacrock said...

I can't leave it alone!

You always get mad at me when I give you shit about the way you write, but dude, what the FUCK does this mean?:

"you seek answers unless they lead toward belief in God, which you don't want becuase he wont let you screw or be gay so you just wont think about it right? The gencentrism crack but your stupid little head where your cake hole is ok? you have zero learning in terms of religious thinkers. until you actually read a page or two of modern theology you have no right to say such things. stop being an idiot and learn something."

This is better than Ray Comfort and the banana story! ROFL!

The cake hole sentence is actually my favorite!


are you really that stupid?

Metacrock said...

Thank you for making me look so good on your blog. I know it wasn't your intent, but after I stopped laughing at how stupid you made yourself look and how good my comments made me look, I was really encouraged to start my own.


I guess a no on the logic lessons hu?

You can find it here: http://atheistrex.blogspot.com

It is empty for now, but you can bet I will be featuring this post of yours before I move on to more challenging thinkers than you.

Besides, I think it will be fun to start my blog off with a good laugh at the insanity of the superstitious!

BTW, if you are brave enough to venture over to my neck of the woods, you will find my comments unmoderated. I am not afraid of everyone seeing the back and forth.


you are such an idiot. you are an important little know nothing and what makes it all so stupid is that you have no eduction. you have not read one single page of real theology you keep flapping little uneducated gum about things you don't know about.

Metacrock said...

typical hate group stuff. He just wants to mock and ridicule. what did he say that contained any substance at all? Al the said basically was "you believe things I don't believe, therefore, you are real stupid.


he will not read one single page of real theoloyg. Someone told him its stupid (because he has read any so how does he know)? that's enough for him, he doesn't to lean anything he knows it all.

He didn't go to graduate school., the didn't get a Masters degree, as I did. He did not get a Doctoral degree, as I came real super close to doing.

he doesn't know anything but he keeps flapping his little gums.

ZDENNY said...

In my experience with Atheist's, they already have anger issues so when you throw more anger on the fire, it just makes them more anger and hate even more.

In order to overcome evil, you have to overcome evil with good. Love is the greatest good as the Bible says, "The greatest of these is love."