Wednesday, July 11, 2012

Frank Admittion from Atheists that they refuse to consider ideas oppossed to thier own

Op is pretty long. CARM it's about the Tillich argument argument that truth is a prori, they can't even agree to that.
Deist says "it's not op it's a book."

Deist:
Anyone can cut and paste bible quotes or book chapters. It's original thoughts that seems difficult for you and the resident Christians.

Rarely do you see non believers pasting book chapters into an OP. The non believers here so outclass the Christians here that you would be far better off cutting and pasting their wisdom. The truth doesn't need to be cut and pasted.

if you read the Op you see it's not cutting and pasting it's actually summarizing an article I read.

Big Thinker:

We refuse to read it because its a meaningless, garbage attempt at looking more intelligent and thoughtful than you are.
All of your long OP's are undone with short, simple concepts.
And we really don't care why you believe what you believe. What we are interested in is whether or not you can demonstrate (outside of your imagination) that God exists outside of your imagination. The rest is pretty much meaningless.

On another thread I used that to say "you don't want truth" here's what they said there.

Meta:
God wants us to search for truth. The reason is because when we search we interlinear the values of the good. without that we would resent the answer when we discover there's really no alternative to God existing.

Atheist refuse to search. they want it handed to them, they want to be forced. That's a childish pout. that's a tactic it's not truth seeking. if they wanted truth they would seek.
BT:
I can't reason using your special rules of logic that basically say whatever you believe is correct.
Talking to me is a waste of your time because your logic and reasoning is inconsistent.
Boy I'll sure go along with you on that one. you sure can't.

BT:

Its not about perfect agreement, its about truth. Are there "shades of gray" between not-truth and truth?

God is not going to "hand it to you" because God is imaginary... Meta's claims about God are nonsense (bsjkvbeuleije).

Originally Posted by Metacrock View Post
Atheist refuse to search. they want it handed to them, they want to be forced. That's a childish pout. that's a tactic it's not truth seeking. if they wanted truth they would seek.

Mary Jane:
Of course, you have no support for this claim. Similarly, I could claim that you refuse to seek the truth and if you did seek the truth, you would realize that there is no God. Of course, that would be a silly argument, just like your claim is silly.

These guys waste a huge amount of mental energy hiding from the logic and facts that support the Christian faith.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Do you think atheists are literally stupid? That there is some cognitive impairment which prevents them from recognizing logical fallacies? Or do you think it is simply ideology with a hefty dosage of brain-washing? From what I gather after having studied atheism sociologically for some years, it seems to be a mixture of the two.

sptrfn said...

Well, it looks like the Atheist "mensas" are still at it. What I find funny is that they talk about "logic" and "reason", and they don't use it themselves.

I also love the one comment that one person said about the Atheists outclassing the Theists on that board. How can robots be classy?

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

"Well, it looks like the Atheist "mensas" are still at it. What I find funny is that they talk about "logic" and "reason", and they don't use it themselves. "

I know. Look at the attitude of the one's I quote on AW. They never say anything that it's circular reasoning.

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

I have a bad habit of throwing around the word "stupid." The truth is, to be charitable (Christian) I think they are not well educated in logic. That's not to say they don't have their own fields but I find even highly trained scinece people often don't know logic. Not that most of them are science people. Most of them are bad in science.

Then there is the brain washing becuase they just led to ignore real logic and use the sort counterfeit atheist logic. I've posted articles on how atheists are sort of making up their own logic designed to rule out God arguments.

they attract lonely teens so they get them before they have been exposed to knowledge and learning. they tell them being an atheist makes them brilliant so they don't have to learn.

sptrfn said...

Well, Meta, I know that you are doing your best with them on the CARM boards. As Arnold Murray of the Shepherd's Chapel says, just plant a seed, and it is up to God to make it grow.

yonose said...

Hello!!

Talking about logic, I'll try to do a catchy phrase resembling the Einstein's one, just for fun, not needed to be taken seriously, about what these sort of atheists (and of course, some status-quo physicists, with all due respect), unfortunately and stubbornly, seem to be unable to understand:

Science without Logic is lame, and Logic without Science is incomplete.

OF course regarding science I'm not only refering to the one used in basis of the scientific method only, but in the broader sense, as the etymological sense of the word, as "Source of Knowledge".

I think it applies well, because many self-avowed-kind-of skeptics unfortunately, in their scientismism, tend to raise a fundamentalist, anti-scientific conduct (talking about CSICOP isn't even needed).

Kind Regards.

Joseph Hinman (Metacrock) said...

exactly! good comment.