Originally Posted by Dr Pepper Meta:you guys keeping to reduce God to psychosocial dimensions. you are still trying to make God a thing in creation. God si not a thing in creation. It's senseless to reduce God the physical. Physical is a illusion. it's a product of mind. God is not physical, physical is a product of God's mind.
there is "there" there. God is nowhere and everywhere.
What is it? God can't be composed of matter and or energy since this is the stuff the makes up the universe and God created it. So what kind of non material stuff exists that can make matter and energy from nothing? In this regard how does said stuff end up thinking and behaving in ways similar to animal life on our planet, specifically human beings. With over a million separate species why pick human beings to give special consideration?
Where is it? We are unable to detect it using any kind of electromagnetic, gravitational or energy output with any known instrument mad by man. Some humans report a mental contact but an equal number do not. Those reporting mental contact can show no physical evidence to indicate from where the contact originates other from within the human brain.
If God is all encompassing mind and the physical world is an idea in that mind then God is in all things and above all things and doesn't have to be anywhere.
When is it? The universe appears to have expanded from a single point some 13 billion years in the past and this expansion is accelerating even today. What existed before this expansion began we know not. Maybe nothing, maybe something we simply do not know. Where does God fit into this scenario? If God existed before the big bang how long did it wait to start the universe expanding from whatever it expanded from.
If everything must have a cause or beginning then when did God begin to exist or to create stuff? Just 13 billion years ago? Forever is a long time even for a God.
say it with me now "God has no beginning he is eternal, he has always been."
Why is it? Why does the universe need a God? If the universe actually began expanding for an unknown reason and this expansion produced the universe we see today with the properties that allows life to exist why do we need a God? Why couldn't matter and energy simply react as it does to produce what we see it doing?
all the whys resolve in Love. why create? to love. my die on the cross, for love. why be good, becuase its loving.
I'm no James Randy to offer 1mil. But I can spare 10k. But, I'm also a gamer (I injoy board/card games) I dont gamble per say, but I'm not opposed to it. So, I will bet my 10k agenst yours if you would care to wager on an outcome - but I do not think anyone will "take my bet"
So, forget betting - I'll just offer the 10k ($10,000) to anyone who can show some way to afferm that the "supernatural" "spirtual" "sprits" "ghosts" "devils" "demons" "angels" "God" "god" "Gods" "gods" "afterlife" "heven" or "hell" actualy exist by using any of the below:
1: Emperical evedance.
2: A repeatable test.
For the next catagory, I will offer $5,000.
You can get this money if you can offer up a logicaly sound decitive augment whos premices are KNOWN TO BE TRUE. And that does not fail any of the logical rules of persanary diolouge, no falacys alowed! Do this, and I'll paypal you the 5,000.
I asked The amazing Randy if he had studied the Lourdes miracles? He said no he had not. So you have no evidence that they included. they are not seeking his money so why would they? So this childish challenge is not any kind of proof against Christian miracles. It is telling as a sign of the times that these materialists lump the "real deal" of God's grace in with "para normal" fraud.
This is actually the atheist fortress of facts at work. We have this big pile of facts and you can't disprove it you have no facts of your own. Of cousre I demontarted the disproof of the fortress of facts in my two part debuncking the athesit fortress of facts.