Monday, July 12, 2010

Atheism and The Twelve Stage Model of Hate groups

When first I launched Atheist Watch I brought out the seven stage model of hate group development used by the FBI. Now I trun to the first four stages, and I feel this is where hate group atheism (Dawkamentalists) are today:


The seven-stage hate model: The psychopathology of hate groups
FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin/March 1, 2003
By John R. Schafer, MA and Joe Navarro, MA



Stage 1: The Haters Gather

Irrational haters seldom hate alone.10 They feel compelled, almost driven, to entreat others to hate asthey do. Peer validation bolsters a sense of self-worth and, at the same time, prevents introspection, which reveals personal insecurities.11 Further, individuals otherwise ineffective become empowered when they join groups, which also provide anonymity and diminished accountability.
Stage 2: The Hate Group Defines Itself

Hate groups form identities through symbols, rituals, and mythologies, which enhance the members' status and, at the same time, degrade the object of their hate. For example, skinhead groups may adopt the swastika, the iron cross, the Confederate flag, and other supremacist symbols. Group-specific symbols or clothing often differentiate hate groups. Group rituals, such as hand signals and secret greetings, further fortify members. Hate groups, especially skinhead groups, usually incorporate some form of self-sacrifice, which allows haters to willingly jeopardize their well-being for the greater good of the cause. Giving one's life to a cause provides the ultimate sense of value and worth to life.12 Skinheads often see themselves as soldiers in a race war.
Stage 3: The Hate Group Disparages the Target

Hate is the glue that binds haters to one another and to a common cause.13 By verbally debasing the object of their hate, haters enhance their self-image, as well as their group status. In skinhead groups, racist song lyrics and hate literature provide an environment wherein hate flourishes. In fact, researchers have found that the life span of aggressive impulses increases with ideation.14 In other words, the more often a person thinks about aggression, the greater the chance for aggressive behavior to occur. Thus, after constant verbal denigration, haters progress to the next more acrimonious stage.
Stage 4: The Hate Group Taunts the Target

Hate, by its nature, changes incrementally. Time cools the fire of hate, thus forcing the hater to look inward. To avoid introspection, haters use ever-increasing degrees of rhetoric and violence to maintain high levels of agitation. Taunts and offensive gestures serve this purpose. In this stage, skinheads typically shout racial slurs from moving cars or from afar. Nazi salutes and other hand signals often accompany racial epithets. Racist graffiti also begins to appear in areas where skinheads loiter. Most skinhead groups claim turf proximate to the neighborhoods in which they live. One study indicated that a majority of hate crimes occur when the hate target migrates through the hate group's turf.15



This is where we are now. The hate group has gathered and begun to taut the target. to avoid the cooling off of introspection they single out the symbols of their hate to attack.



NCJRS abstracts

In the second stage, the haters form an identity by using symbols, rituals, and mythology. During the third stage, the haters begin to verbally degrade the object of their hatred, thereby bolstering their self-image as a group. In the fourth stage, in order to maintain high levels of agitation and avoid introspection, the group begins to taunt its target, usually through the use of offensive gestures and racial slurs.


This is what happens on message boards every night on the internet.

Wikiepdia article on hate groups

Hate groups usually assert that the targets of their attacks are harmful to society. Hate groups generally propagate myths, narratives and rumours, playing upon fear, xenophobia, blame or jealousy, with the aim of harming individuals and groups they target, and inciting others to distrust or hate them. The ultimate aim of a hate group is commonly the delegitimization, elimination, and exclusion of groups, or the harm, deportation, or death of individuals. Hate groups often use their victims as scapegoats.


We see this on the net every night, every atheist message board is dominated by the charges that Hitler was a Christian, Christianity is bad for society, God ordered the wiping out of various people', the bogus social science studies like the Zuckerman pretend study that claims "atheist societies" are so much better than religious ones. And now we see the atheists attacking the symbol of their object of hatred, Christmas. A sign was put up at a radio station by atheists trying to destory the beuaty of Christmas. It was placed beside a nativity scene and it said the nativity scene was a myth. This is documented on Cnn.com/living "Missing Atheist Sign Found."

(CNN) -- An atheist sign criticizing Christianity that was erected alongside a Nativity scene was taken from the Legislative Building in Olympia, Washington, on Friday and later found in a ditch.
The Freedom from Religion Foundation had a placard up in the Legislative Building in Olympia, Washington.

The Freedom from Religion Foundation had a placard up in the Legislative Building in Olympia, Washington.
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An employee from country radio station KMPS-FM in Seattle told CNN the sign was dropped off at the station by someone who found it in a ditch.

"I thought it would be safe," Freedom From Religion Foundation co-founder Annie Laurie Gaylor told CNN earlier Friday. "It's always a shock when your sign is censored or stolen or mutilated. It's not something you get used to."

The sign, which celebrates the winter solstice, has had some residents and Christian organizations calling atheists Scrooges because they said it was attacking the celebration of Jesus Christ's birth.

"Religion is but myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds," the sign from the Freedom From Religion Foundation says in part.

The sign, which was at the Legislative Building at 6:30 a.m. PT, was gone by 7:30 a.m., Gaylor said.

The incident will not stifle the group's message, Gaylor said. Before reports of the placard's recovery, she said a temporary sign with the same message would be placed in the building's Rotunda. Gaylor said a note would be attached saying, "Thou shalt not steal."
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"I guess they don't follow their own commandments," Gaylor said. "There's nothing out there with the atheist point of view, and now there is such a firestorm that we have the audacity to exist. And then [whoever took the sign] stifles our speech."

Gaylor said that police are checking security cameras pointed at the building's entrances and exits to see if they can see anyone stealing the sign.

"It's probably about 50 pounds, " Gaylor said. "My brother-in-law was huffing and puffing carrying it up the stairs. It's definitely not something you can stick under your arm or conceal."

The Washington State Patrol, which is handling the incident, could not be reached for comment.

Dan Barker, a former evangelical preacher and co-founder of the group, said it was important for atheists to see their viewpoints validated alongside everyone else's.

Barker said the display is especially important given that 25 percent of Washington state residents are unaffiliated with religion or do not believe in God. (A recent survey by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found 23 percent of Washingtonians said they were unaffiliated with a religion and 7 percent said they didn't believe in God.)


Atheists on message boards have said things like "O those evil nasty Christians destroying our poor little sign." But it doesn't dawn on them the sign is an act of hate because it says "you are not allowed to exist in the public square with me. I will not allow you to have your beliefs." Who the hell would get upset at Christmas? They are attacking love, peace, happiness, good toward men. But the reason is because the symbol of the hated target becomes a target for hate. This incident points up a full scale attack on Christmas that has been growing over the years. The symbol of faith as become the target of hate for those who despise faith.

from the same CNN article


"Most people think December is for Christians and view our signs as an intrusion, when actually it's the other way around," he said. "People have been celebrating the winter solstice long before Christmas. We see Christianity as the intruder, trying to steal the holiday from all of us humans."

The scene in Washington state is not unfamiliar. Barker has had signs in Madison, Wisconsin, for 13 years. The placard is often turned around so the message can't be seen, and one year, someone threw acid on it, forcing the group to encase it in Plexiglas.

In Washington, D.C., the American Humanist Association began a bus ad campaign this month questioning belief in God.

"Why believe in a God?" the advertisement asks. "Just be good for goodness sake."

That ad has caused the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority to field hundreds of complaints, the group said, but it has heard just as much positive feedback, said Fred Edwords, the association's spokesman.

Edwords said the ad campaign, which features a shrugging Santa Claus, was not meant to attack Christmas but rather to reach out to an untapped audience.

Edwords maintains the campaign began in December mostly because the group had extra money left over for the year. The connection to Christmas is a coincidence, he said.

"There are a lot of people out there who don't know there are organizations like ours to serve their needs," Edwords said. "The thing is, to reach a minority group, in order to be heard, everyone in the room has to hear you, even when they don't want to."

The ad campaign, Edwords said, is to make people think. He said he doesn't expect to "convert" anyone.

But the Christian Coalition of America is urging members to oppose the advertisements.

"Although a number of humanists and atheists continue to attempt to rid God and Christmas from the public square, the American people are overwhelmingly opposed to such efforts," Roberta Combs, the group's president said in a press release.

"We will ask our millions of supporters to call the city of Washington, D.C., and Congress to stop this un-Godly campaign."


Within this year there were a handful of incidence of hate group vandalism to churches in Dallas and East Texas that may have involved atheists. Two of the perpetrators were reading atheist books, and one of the cases of vandalism used atheist slogans.

16 comments:

A Hermit said...

"We see this on the net every night, every atheist message board is dominated by the charges that Hitler was a Christian, Christianity is bad for society, God ordered the wiping out of various people', the bogus social science studies like the Zuckerman pretend study that claims "atheist societies" are so much better than religious ones."

On the other hand we have people like you falsely claiming that Hitler was an atheist, that Stalin's crimes are down to his atheism, comparing honest atheists to Nazis, misrepresenting about what people like Zuckerman have to say; we see people on CARM telling us we're immoral, that we deserve to burn in Hell forever, that we shouldn't be allowed to vote, etc. etc.

"A sign was put up at a radio station by atheists trying to destory the beuaty of Christmas. It was placed beside a nativity scene and it said the nativity scene was a myth."

Interesting...someone puts up a sign expressing their religious opinion in a public place where other expressions of religious opinion are permitted; that sign is STOLEN; and you accuse the people whose sign was stolen of being the hateful ones...I think you're a little confused about the concept of religious liberty and freedom of expression...

"the sign is an act of hate because it says "you are not allowed to exist in the public square with me. I will not allow you to have your beliefs."

that's not what the sign says; it's critical of religion, yes, but it doesn't say anything like that. This is another of YOUR hateful lies.

"Within this year there were a handful of incidence of hate group vandalism to churches in Dallas and East Texas that may have involved atheists. Two of the perpetrators were reading atheist books, and one of the cases of vandalism used atheist slogans."

One report said there was one atheist book in one of their houses. there were Bibles too...

What a nasty, dishonest, hatefilled little bigot you are. You call the victims of vandalism hateful, you lie, you misrepresent you call people "nazis" without any justification, you refuse to listen to reasonable requests for mutual respect and tolerance. you take no responsibility for your own anger your own hate or your own nasty, vicious behaviour.

You're a thug, plain and simple. Hope you're proud of yourself.

A Hermit said...

"We see this on the net every night, every atheist message board is dominated by the charges that Hitler was a Christian, Christianity is bad for society, God ordered the wiping out of various people', the bogus social science studies like the Zuckerman pretend study that claims "atheist societies" are so much better than religious ones."

On the other hand we have people like you falsely claiming that Hitler was an atheist, that Stalin's crimes are down to his atheism, comparing honest atheists to Nazis, misrepresenting about what people like Zuckerman have to say; we see people on CARM telling us we're immoral, that we deserve to burn in Hell forever, that we shouldn't be allowed to vote, etc. etc.

Metacrock said...

On the other hand we have people like you falsely claiming that Hitler was an atheist, that Stalin's crimes are down to his atheism, comparing honest atheists to Nazis,

I have never said Hitler as an atheist. I have constatly said he was occult I never have thought he was an athist. Never never never. you can find what Look on Doxa you can see what I said.

you were not a communist you are no position to tell me what they did. I was a communist, I know how they think.

I posted this to answer the lie about my comments on Hitler. But don't get use to it.

from now on you want a comment posted it has to be minus the personal attacks.

A Hermit said...

"I have constatly said he was occult I never have thought he was an athist."

You think that because in your more lucid moments you are rational enough to admit that Hitler wasn't an atheist excuses your constant refrain of "atheists are Nazis"? What's the difference? Your'e constantly going on and on about we're just like Hitler, just like the Brownshirts, just like the Nazis....

You pretend to be oh so reasonable, but your real character comes out here on this hate blog.

A Hermit said...

you wanna see a hate group, Joe" Check out your fellow Christian academic, Mike Adams:

"I can’t stand atheists. And I plan to do something about them. Thankfully, the U.S. Supreme Court has given me a powerful tool to use in my war against the godless. Earlier this week, the Court ruled that a public university may require all student organizations to admit any student as a voting member or officer. The decision applies even to a student who is openly hostile to the group's fundamental beliefs.
So, when I get back to the secular university in August, I plan to round up the students I know who are most hostile to atheism. Then I’m going to get them to help me find atheist-haters willing to join atheist student groups across the South. I plan to use my young fundamentalist Christian warriors to undermine the mission of every group that disagrees with me on the existence of God...

...If they don’t like it they can go to hell. That’s where they’re eventually going anyway...

... I do not seek robust debate. I seek power over the godless heathen dissident..."


Of course, like you, he completely misunderstands the idea of freedom of association, free expression and freedom of belief...(the court's decision just means that school fees can reasonably be withheld from any group that may discriminate against some of those who paid those fees)...but why let the facts get in the way of all that yummy, righteous hate and anger?

A Hermit said...

By the way, if we want to get picky I never said YOU claimed Hitler was a Nazi; I said "people like you"...

Metacrock said...

A Hermit said...

By the way, if we want to get picky I never said YOU claimed Hitler was a Nazi; I said "people like you"...

you are right, that's the kind of little picky shit distinction I would expect atheists to make a big deal out of.

Metacrock said...

Hermit:you wanna see a hate group, Joe" Check out your fellow Christian academic, Mike Adams:

that's the kind of bull shit and bogus little crap I have come to expect from atheists.

where does he go to find a "real" academic, (as though he knows what one is?) to Rush Limbo of course where else would find a true scholar?

this is the little lying trick I expect from atheists. they can't play fair, they have no concept of real evidenced at all they don't' know what academic is, and they use any little cowardly trick they can to saw people's emotions.

who says this Adams guy speaks fo any segment of Christianity?

yet here is the little agent of atheist using him to "typical of all Christians."

Metacrock said...

Hermit:"I have constatly said he was occult I never have thought he was an athist."

You think that because in your more lucid moments you are rational enough to admit that Hitler wasn't an atheist excuses your constant refrain of "atheists are Nazis"? What's the difference? Your'e constantly going on and on about we're just like Hitler, just like the Brownshirts, just like the Nazis....

You pretend to be oh so reasonable, but your real character comes out here on this hate blog.


here's an example of classical atheist logic, which is to say a bad syllogism.

when I liken atheists unto Nazis it is obviously and clealry a metaphor. I am clelary saying "some aspect of their behavior is Nazi like." of course let's remember now I used to make a caveots about 'not all atheits" until Hermit kept chiding me for doing that and saying it was not good so I quite. now he's upset that I don't make the distinction.

but look his bad logic. he sees no distinction between "I see a simiarlity in some nazis and some atheists" and "you called Hitler an atheist." As these are totally the same thing!

it takes a real dullard to do that.

A Hermit said...

"where does he go to find a "real" academic, (as though he knows what one is?) to Rush Limbo of course where else would find a true scholar?"

Mike Adams is an associate professor of criminology at University of North Carolina...

http://www.uncwil.edu/soccrm/Adams.html

"yet here is the little agent of atheist using him to "typical of all Christians.""

I said nothing of the kind; I was pointing out that he makes the same error you do when you condemn the victims of vandalism as a "hate group" for exercising their rights to free speech/freedom of belief. You sound just like this guy, don't you realize that? If you don't like being compared to the Rush Limbaugh wing of your religion stop behaving like them.

Metacrock said...

Our "friend" mr Hermit is upset at me calling atheists Nazis. of course it would be that I only call the hate groups that but he doesn't want me to make that distinction so he brings the label on himself by accepting the lot of all atheists.

he's so very angry because I do that. but He expects me to accept the atheist characterization of all Christians as evil and stupid and responsible for every ill of society, and just accept and be nice about becuase why?

because the ideology says that's true and everyone must accept the ideology or be ridiculed by the sweet smart wonderful kind atheists.

Metacrock said...

Crimnology! ahahahahah O that's so academic! where did you dig him up? It was on same page with Rush, it was not in an academic journals.

here's another level of intelligence that atheists just aren't up to yet. Not only can Christians distinguish academics from laymen we can also distinguish good academics from bad ones.

I took criminology. A hard question for a criminology major is "what do you say to an attack dog to make him attack?" That just totally stumps them.

Metacrock said...

Now the little secret agent Hermit whose self appointed mission is screwing up atheist watch with trivia, is mad as a little wet hen because of this:

I seem to have quoted a web site that calls Hitler an atheist. So that I'm a liar becasue that means I must think that since I'm quoting someone who said it.

what an idiotically trvial mind to think that one is obligated to exclaimed every single statement ever made any one you quote and that if you quote them you must agree with everything they ever said.

I am willing to bet anything that if you look hard enough you will find someone dubmbo has quoted who says stuff dumbo himself would be totally ashamed of.

this means that he thinks the Hitler was an atheist thing is so important it needs to be right up front in my conscoiusness all the time. that's so fucking stupid.

A Hermit said...

"I seem to have quoted a web site that calls Hitler an atheist. So that I'm a liar becasue that means I must think that since I'm quoting someone who said it."

I've pointed this out to you before; you haven't taken down the link or disavowed any of the opinions expressed there. this is an example the "people like you" who say that Hitler was an atheist...exactly like I said in my original comment. If you don't like being associated with such opinions don't link to them in your blogroll.

Metacrock said...

I've pointed this out to you before; you haven't taken down the link or disavowed any of the opinions expressed there. this is an example the "people like you" who say that Hitler was an atheist...exactly like I said in my original comment. If you don't like being associated with such opinions don't link to them in your blogroll.


I've pointed this out to you before.It's my blog not yous I decide what I link to here. you do not make decisions about my blog.

that's silly shallow and childish to focus on ting one minor little thing and insist it must change; that's nothing more than your little attempt to control. it wont work cause I wont change it. you don't like it go away.

Metacrock said...

hermit I just realized it, you are one of "them" aren't you? the little precious pipsqueaks politically correct types who have to control whatever one says. aren't you?


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