- I see his 5 bullets points, and I happen to agree with them all in varying degrees. I see you rant and dodge and dissemble, and while you are exhibiting evidence of all 5 of his points in your answer, I see that you don't directly address any single one of them. That is exactly why I don't spend too much time here anymore. There is no real discussion. Someone presents you with jumbo sized holes in your delusions, and you whine and rant about how that is hate speech, and how you have a biblical education, and how ignorant we are because we haven't wasted years of our lives wallowing in the guilt and shame and judgment and irrational fear of god's word.
why didn't Martin Luther King sit down with the KKK? Because they were not worth it, they weren't going to listen to reason they were a hate groiup!
Rex complains because I don't go to the trobule to give a bunch of answers he doesn't want and wont listen to to the loaded garbage that DP postured with, why is that? I just told you.
MLK did not sit down with the Klan. why waste my time?
I have proved that atheist is hate group by quoting their hate. that's all I'm up to here. I don't need to disprove hate stuff.
What I don't see is you having a well thought out discussion about anything. You say that you have arguments and studies proving god, and yet I have never seen a single one of those things here.
The purpose of this sight is to prove that there is an atheist segment that is a hate group. The purpose of this site is not to answer atheist issues. If you want that go to my website Doxa, my message board, my other blog, find me on CARM.
What I do see is you calling everyone who you come into contact with and endless number of names. I see you calling the kettle black by talking about how stupid we all are,and how we don't know how to carry on a reasonable debate.such a typical hate group ploy, the names they call us are understandable and wise, what's going in our sick stupid little minds? That's so prefectly fair for them to say, but answer them back and treat them as they treat us and we are total villans.
What I don't see is you taking the high road to show by example that there is a better way to live and interact. I don't see any positive results from your supposed superior moral code in your interactions. I also don't see you behaving in any way that would separate you from the actions of the "hate group" that you are always frothing about. You exhibit all of the same attributes that you despise so much.You are certainly not on any kind of high road. You are just itching to mock and ridicule. you think mocking and ridiculing is fine. you think that's the way until it's done to you. you don't' answer answers you want a privileged position. Walt is one of the most reasonable people on CARM The things he says are never insulting and he's a nice guy. That guy just mocked and ridiculed him and didn't listen to any of his answers. Where is your sense of fair play and good discussion? If you really had any you would be able to see the good in Walt's answers.
The truth is Rex you are a hate filled minion of a brain washed sect.
It's obvious from DP's statments that he is not the least bit interested in answers. He didn't ask fact related questions. When atheists say "fact" they don't mean facts they man selling points for their ideology. That which does not agree wtiht he ideology is not an fact no matter how well it's estabished.
When you set up a set of loaded questions designed to brow beat your opponent ("are you still beating your wife" find of questions) which DP did, then it's obvious you don't want answers.
here is a link to my page on Doxa concerning the nature of Biblical revolutionary. "The Nature Biblical Inspiration"
It's been on my site for 10 years, I've posted it on CARM countless times, way over a thousand. it's been disused on my other blog.
It answers all the questions DP asked about the Bible in that Op.
if you really want answers read it!
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Again, I confronted you on not having the ability or desire to have a reasonable meaningful thoughtful discussion, and all you can do is shout insults and "hate group"
You claim that the reasonable discussion is beneath you or whatever, yet the only thing I see you doing is shouting louder and louder that you are right and we are stupid. That convinces no one, and puts you further from credibility.
IF you can, you will be more effective by lowering your voice and dialing the over the top rhetoric down a few notches, and PRESENTING YOUR EVIDENCE.
Ghandi once said that "an error can never become true, however many times it is repeated, but the truth can never be wrong even if no one hears it."
Until you can demonstrate calmly that you have the truth, in a manner that is easily accessible to all, I will continue to put you in the first category.
And don't tell me that it is too complicated for our puny pea brains, because if god is going to be accessible to everyone, it must make sense to the children without phd's too.
Calling us a hate group and other names does not make it so, nor does it make you right.
It does make you the angriest and the loudest though!
Have a nice weekend!
Again, I confronted you on not having the ability or desire to have a reasonable meaningful thoughtful discussion, and all you can do is shout insults and "hate group"
You claim that the reasonable discussion is beneath you or whatever,
I said nothing of the sort. I said that DP's loaded questions are not a prelude to having a rational discussion and that you can't understand what's wrong with his approach tells me you are not looking for a rational discussion either.
yet the only thing I see you doing is shouting louder and louder that you are right and we are stupid. That convinces no one, and puts you further from credibility.
you are certainly not reading all of the posts or thinking about what I say. you don't seem able to comprehend the point. This sight is about proving the hate exists and my point was that that post is proof of hate. why should I legitimate the hate group approach by pretending that his circular assumptions and loaded questions deserve a real answer?
IF you can, you will be more effective by lowering your voice and dialing the over the top rhetoric down a few notches, and PRESENTING YOUR EVIDENCE.
why should I do that? you don't present evidence to a bully who doesn't really seek it. when you show me that you want evidence then you can have it. I also told you I hvae plentyo f other outlets where I deal with evidence. who cant' you got my message boards?
why is it so hard for you to understand that the purpose here is not to argue the arguments but to show the approach of hate?
Moreover, those questions are certainly not hard. they are stupid. I've answered them a thousand times. why are still asking such stupid questions. "how can you believe something that's 2000 years old?" this is not a smart question it's dumb ass question that hows he's not seriouss about discussion.
that is not the sort of the thin you ask when you want to initiate a real discussion,
Ghandi once said that "an error can never become true, however many times it is repeated, but the truth can never be wrong even if no one hears it."
Gandhi did ot sit down for Talks with the Brits, did you know that? why didn't he? because he knew they weren't serious.
Until you can demonstrate calmly that you have the truth, in a manner that is easily accessible to all, I will continue to put you in the first category.\
why don't you have to demonstrate that you are cable of thinking fairly and understanding ideas and that you want answers? why do you get to come on with a totally hateful approach and yet I have to prove myself. why don't you have to prove yourself?
And don't tell me that it is too complicated for our puny pea brains, because if god is going to be accessible to everyone, it must make sense to the children without phd's too.
In other words give me an answer but not a good one that holds up. yea that's real indicative of wanting a true honest discussion. But you do sort of admit I know more than you.
Calling us a hate group and other names does not make it so, nor does it make you right.
You are obviously a hate grup. hateful bullies that need to mock and ridicule their victims. I've proved this over and over agian. you cant' face the truth you can't face reality nd you are not willing to think honestly about it.
stop right now and think how do you feela bout religion? you feel the hate? you know you do.
It does make you the angriest and the loudest though!
you want your positon to be special and you want to start fromt he position that my view is shit and your's is right. I will not discuss withanyone who thinking bullying is the way to win a disptue.
you are nothing more than bigoted little hateful bully.
here is a link to my page on Doxa concerning the nature of Biblical revolutionary. "The Nature Biblical Inspiration"
It's been on my site for 10 years, I've posted it on CARM countless times, way over a thousand. it's been disused on my other blog.
It answers all the questions DP asked about the Bible in that Op.
if you really want answers read it!
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