Yet more atehist logic, infussed with Fallacies

A comment appeared this morning responding to this post:

Monday, September 2, 2013

New Atheist Ideology Dissected and Disproved

The comment is by someone calling himself "sir Craig" here it is:

Sir Craig said...

Hmm...according to Mein Kampf, Hitler was most assuredly doing what he did to express his brand of religious belief, either Catholic or Protestant. To argue otherwise is to invoke the Not a True Scotsman logical fallacy! because most anyone can point to the religious influences in his writings.

However, even if Hitler were simply the most cynical man alive and had no actual belief in a god, it still cannot be denied that he would not have been able to carry out his actions without the driving force of religion to compel the rest of the German people. Religion was his tool and he used it thusly.

April 25, 2014 at 12:55 AM  

 Here was my answer:

Metacrock said...

Ok Students here we have several informal fallacies working at the same time. First is guilt by association:

"However, even if Hitler were simply the most cynical man alive and had no actual belief in a god, it still cannot be denied that he would not have been able to carry out his actions without the driving force of religion to compel the rest of the German people. Religion was his tool and he used it thusly."

In one case religion was used wrong so therefore religon is always used wrongly. that's just guilt by association.

It's also a doube bind becuase he say ok even if he wasn't religious he an example being a bad thing. Damned if you do damned if you don't. Every case is going to be one or the other but religion is always wrong even it's not really reilgion.

BTW we can also do the same thing with atheism. Even if communism isn't real atheist it still proves that atheism murders millions of people becuase the communists called themselves atheists.

Then of course we have the ever popular "no true Scotsman" always misunderstood and misused by atheists. The real idea says people get to be Scotsmen becsuae they are born Scotsman. So therefore, to say that one is not a true Scotsman becuase true Scotsmen will never behave ih a certain fashion is clearly wrong. But people become Chrsitians by choice. there is a code of behavior to live up to. There's no code of behavior for being a Scotsman there is for being a Christian.

so therefore wee can say so an so is not a true Christian. That is not a fallacy. the fallacy the atheist are committing is trying argue by analogy.

then of course we have a certain gullibility in trust what Hitler says in a propaganda piece. He wrote Mein Kampf as propaganda to persuade the masses he's a good guy. So what's he going to say "yes I am evil and want to kill you for your sacred beliefs becuase I hate them?" that would not be very effective propaganda would it.

Now do you know better than to believe a guy like Hitler? I do. I am from a state where elected Rich Perry three times and even I know not to trust Hitler.

April 25, 2014 at 5:21 AM