This is an hilarious exchange. this Tercon guy I had never seen before. He holds his own but the really funny thing is the ridiculous responses by atheists.
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Everyone who uses these arguments is guilty of this same thing, spreading the same hate that Communists did and do. You throw out these words of hate unto the internet; do you at all stop for a minute a think about what your words mean, where they originated from and where they lead when played out? Do you realize that when you propagate these arguments of hate, this hate is there forever on someone’s computer somewhere? They become your legacy hate to the world. Do you really want to be known and remembered for using the same hate that the Communists used to orchestrate the murder of millions of people? I see thousands of people who live in democratic countries spreading this hate. Communism does not need to set up regimes of their own making anymore; this system of hate is alive and well in the west and it is called atheism.
Friday, April 13, 2012
Liberation Sarah: "The first person to count the number of fallacies gets a prize."
Infinite Hope
Originally Posted by Tercon
Strawman, Ad hominem, Begging the Question.
Marxists / Communists / Atheists writings have remained consistent throughout the history of communism
IH: red herring, Ad hominem, posioning the well.Meta: that is not a red herring. It is an amusing pun, talk of communism is red herring, get it?
, and atheism in the western democracies. From Marx’s time to the present, Atheists everywhere have vehemently denied the existence of God.
Specal pleeding. (athests do not "deny" we do not BELIVE in Gods)Meta:this is not special pleading. this guy doesn't have the slightest idea what special pleading is.
This becomes especially obvious when one considers the theological stance of the former U.S.S.R. The Great Soviet Encyclopaedia, published in Moscow in 1950, called on the Communist Party to oppose religion and “to fight for the ‘full victory’ of atheism.” The Young Communist League’s list of Ten Commandments contains the declaration “If you are not a convinced atheist, you cannot be a good Communist.
Confusing association with causation, False Continuum, No True ScotsmanMeta: go shut em down "Hopie" hey I got some more improper terms you can throw at him, call it black is white slide! This guy is just dishing out he can think to call it weather it fits or not.
. . . Atheism is indissolubly bound to Communism.” In 1955, Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev said, “Communism has not changed its attitude of opposition to religion. We are doing everything we can to eliminate the bewitching power of the opium of religion.”Meta: here's where he really goes wild
Hopie syas:
Meta: why not the kitchen sink too man?
Tercon wisely responds
Stop being so foolish, of course you think you see all of these fake fallacies in what I wrote, you think you are a atheist, but it is not any real fallacy that you are picking up on when you read the OP, but just the conflict that you find now in yourself because something disparaging has been brought to your attention regarding something you think you can believe, a contradiction is in play.the link Tercon uses:
And I can prove it; point out one thing that is not true in the OP.
The goal is truth, not things that are impossible to be true, even as hard as you might try to believe them they still show themselves to be untrue in the end. You have shown or proved nothing here with this post, it is meaningless; the truth trumps fabricated one-sided fallacies every time; you are doing nothing more than trying to project your fallacious beliefs unto me and anyone foolish enough to buy your foul spew, these lies plague you, not me. And hopefully not any of the Readers either.
Space Monkey who is legitimately one of the brighest people on the baord says:
Atheists are not responsible for the misuse of legitimate atheistic arguments to support actions that those arguments alone do not in fact support.Meta: monkey man how many times have seen atheists blame of Christianity for the stupidity of a few televangelists and a few fundies on message boards?
One needs further premises to move from "there probably isn't any god" to "genocide is a good thing to do".
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Although I( was an atheist most of my life, I was a Republican until G.W. Bush showed me the error of my ways. I know a great many atheists, not one communist. Either Democrat or Republican, with a few being apolitical. Why do you feel that we have to be communists to be atheists ? It only requires a natural skepticism, & reading the bible is a big help.
Bill Walker
Although I( was an atheist most of my life, I was a Republican until G.W. Bush showed me the error of my ways. I know a great many atheists, not one communist. Either Democrat or Republican, with a few being apolitical. Why do you feel that we have to be communists to be atheists ? It only requires a natural skepticism, & reading the bible is a big help.
April 21, 2012 3:43 PM
I don't. Atheists on the net caught up in the ideolgoical battle of rhetoric usually assume that if religious people do something bad it's because religion (usually Christianity) has made them be that way because religion (Christianity in particular) molds people to be such and such a way.
Why should we not make the same assumption about atheism? Its' the same logic. It's the same fallacy. you are so willing to see it as a fallacy when it's turns against your ideology and so unwilling when it serves your ideology.
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