Here's a guy on a website trying to convene a bunch of know nothings, (I mean atheists) that there is documentation for miracles. I admit the claims are pretty wild. He actually has a site that claims an amputation grew back. But they don't really dismiss it for that reason. they dismiss it for no reason reason except that whenever he meets their burden of evidence they can keep coming up with more criteria.
http://www.matchdoctor.com/thread_87_18612_1/Medically_documented_Miracles.html
Storm, there is an email address on there, email him, he will document it for you. I have another that has doctor's names and addresses on it, will post it. I put this on here because some said that there were no medically documented miracles.
This one has doctors names and addresses and ex rays.
http://www.healingsandmiracles.org/
Certainly, I would pray for someone who was dying.
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Apr 5, 2007 @ 8:36 PM Medically documented Miracles
eastham
Posts: 6,409
This one has doctors names and addresses and ex rays.
This still doesn't make the documentation guidelines.
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Apr 5, 2007 @ 8:40 PM Medically documented Miracles
bevrice
Posts: 11,144 It has ex rays, doctors names, doctor's notes. the works.
I found many Catholic ones that pass that test according to the Catholic church.
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Apr 5, 2007 @ 8:42 PM Medically documented Miracles
eastham
Posts: 6,409 I don't care about the denomination, documentation means the ability to written up in peer-reviewed journals. Less than that is a testimonial and not documentation.
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Apr 5, 2007 @ 8:45 PM Medically documented Miracles
kjac
Posts: 5,601 And the Catholics have proven soooo reliable. I really wouldn't use them to validate ANYTHING.
Except of course, child abuse laws.
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Apr 5, 2007 @ 8:47 PM Medically documented Miracles
stormbay
Posts: 695
Certainly, I would pray for someone who was dying.
But not help, typical.
Bev your a complete joke,I've read through that site and nowhere does any doctor in any medical reports state or confirm her leg has grown back. They did operate to remove spurs from the bone, but all the rest relates to other procedures and cover all the other illnesses and complaints she has. Certainly not a healthy women by any stretch of the imagination.
In other words Bev, its a fake, just like you nothing but deceit.
I found many Catholic ones that pass that test according to the Catholic church.
The catholic church, only requires 3 witnesses and doesn't need to include a medical doctor, but must include a representative of the church. The church has never been able to convince the scientific or medical profession that a medical miracle has happened, just the opposite.
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Apr 5, 2007 @ 8:51 PM Medically documented Miracles
12knots
Posts: 6,400 Watta bout the Buddhists??????
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Apr 5, 2007 @ 8:53 PM Medically documented Miracles
bevrice
Posts: 11,144 Carole's Doctors
Dr. James F. Coy, M.D.
Sunstate Preventive Medicine Institute
310 Nesbit Street
Post Office Box 511315
Punta Gorda, Fl 33951-1315
(941) 575-8080
Dr. James F. Coy M.D. is now the physician in complete authority over all medical decisions regarding the creative miracle of completion of my left leg.
Dr. Kenneth Levy M.D.
Advanced Orthopedics Center
1641 Tamiami Trail
Suite 1
Port Charlotte, Fl. 33948
(941) 629-6262
Orthopedic Specialist since 1986, Dr. Levy amputated my left leg below the kneecap in 1995. In the year 2000, Dr. Levy documented that my amputated left leg is growing back and is a creative miracle from God. There is no other explanation! (Dr. Levy is now retired and no longer involved in my case.)
Dr. David S. Goris, CPO
American Board Certified Prosthetist Orthotist
Sonlife Prosthetics and Orthotics, Inc.
6111 Deltona Blvd.
Spring Hill, Fl. 34609
(352) 596-2257
Dr. Goris is the President of Sonlife with extensive experience in both Prosthetics and Orthotics. He received his bachelors degree from Calvin College in 1976 and went on to receive his degree in Prosthetics and Orthotics from Northwestern University in 1980. He is certified by the American Board for Certification and meets their requirements for continuing education on a yearly basis. Some of his most recent studies include custom prosthetic restoration and implementation of Computer Aided Design and Manufacturing (CAD/CAM) technology. Dr. Goris also certifies that my leg is a creative miracle from God.
Dr. Harvey Tritel, MD, FAC
Florida Heart Associates
2675 Winkler Ave.
Suite 460
Fort Myers, Fl 33901
(941) 936-3896
My Cardiac Specialist since 1989. Please refer to documents in the book regarding this miracle.
Todd D. Nowell, O. D.
After-image Eye Care. P.A.
Spring Hill, Florida 34606
(941) 352-688-1102 Phone
Examination July 17, 2006 Vision 20-20
Click here to download the free book to learn more about the miracles.
Okay, storm, here you go, call them.
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Apr 5, 2007 @ 8:55 PM Medically documented Miracles
bevrice
Posts: 11,144 Buddha didn't believe in miracles.
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Apr 5, 2007 @ 8:56 PM Medically documented Miracles
12knots
Posts: 6,400 Of course.
Nothing special about them. Kids play.
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Apr 5, 2007 @ 8:56 PM Medically documented Miracles
eastham
Posts: 6,409 At least Storm, there is room built into the system for those who make the oppositive arguement. The opposing side must/should be represented. For example, Christopher Hitchens was interviewed and questioned extensively during discussion about Mother Theresa being cannonized.
Not so with Bev. That line was to make me expressly feel uncomfortable...not that it worked.
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Apr 6, 2007 @ 1:44 AM Medically documented Miracles
bevrice
Posts: 11,144 Catholic miracles at Lourdeshttp://www.geocities.com/meta_crock/other/Miracles2.htm
Catholics always make sure their miracles are medically documented, you know.
They won't even call it a miracle unless it is. They have rigid rules.
[Edited on 4/6/2007 1:54 AM]
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Apr 6, 2007 @ 2:16 AM Medically documented Miracles
stormbay
Posts: 695 Bev there is no medically verifiable documents on either site, to support what you or they say, none whatsoever. If there were, then it could be accepted if the doctor states its a miracle but there is nothing. Believing the catholic church has any credibility is gullible in the extreme, when you see their history and the desperate efforts they go to in trying to lie, cheat and deceive their way out of anything they get caught out on.
Trolling to find evidence so desperately is not the sign of someone who knows their subject, just someone who clutches at straws without proper research. The sane of the world Bev, aren't as gullible and superstition as you.
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Apr 6, 2007 @ 6:28 AM Medically documented Miracles
bevrice
Posts: 11,144 not trolling, you have doctors you can check with and phone numbers.
The Catholic Church calls very few healings miracles, they have to be medically certified.
The claim for a miraculous cure is first examined by a medical board at the local level were it is claimed. The medical tribunal determines whether the disease was well-documented, had no hope of cure, that it is without any scientific explanation (no possible other causes, including the effects of medical care already received or spontaneous remission), and that it has continued (that is, it wasn't temporary). If it passes muster the decision is commited to a theological tribunal at the diocescan level.
The theological tribunal must determine whether it meets the criteria of a supernatural intervention. To be judged supernatural it must be beyond the power of created nature (including angels, good and bad). A disease might be caused by a fallen angel and then a "cure" result from the demon withdrawing his influence. The disease would remit with no explanation. For theologians, therefore, there is a clear preference for spontanous cures of terminal or otherwise hopeless cases: the person with MS, Parkinsons, tuberculosis, cancer, etc. who is cured from one moment to the next, with diseased tissue becoming healthy instantaneously. Since the angels (good or bad) cannot create tissue, such cures are evidently beyond their power. Cancer that remits, with healing resulting over time from the recuperative powers of the body, would not be conclusive.
After a positive finding at the local level, the case is sent to Rome where it goes though the same two-stop process with new scientific and theological experts.
I know of no such rigor being applied to claims of miracles outside the Catholic Chuch.
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Apr 6, 2007 @ 9:04 AM Medically documented Miracles
12knots
Posts: 6,400 Science is the miracle maker.
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