I'd like to see the hard historical evidence for Jesus Christ. I'm not interested in what your Bible has to say about him. Aside from your holy texts, how do we KNOW that Jesus Christ was a real person?
first I tried summarizing my historical Jesus pages but he didn't want that. He wanted a briefer summary.
I'm not interested in your religious beliefs. I'm interested in it's historical accuracy. Can you provide some evidence for Jesus' life without invoking your holy texts?
very stuipd demand because it assumes that the Gospels are not artifacts of people's beliefs and knowledge which of course they must be, simply because people wrote them.
He wont read my links so I begin to summarize.
After quite a bit of listing of evidence with quotes to prove my points,one of them argues from analogy and basically says in effect, "Joseph Smith was an idiot and his stuff was obviously bs so therefore the Bible is also Bs." I tell him argument from analogy is illogical and he tries to sneak it in as a non argument by saying that it's not argument from analogy it's just "unmistakeably parallels." What the hell do you call an analogy? that's exactly what it is and anyone with half a brain knows that.
Then his buddy comes along and denies that the historical has any place in the thread (the title of the thread is "did Jesus exist?" So historical evidence has no place in a thread called "did Jesus exist?"
By science i mean natural science, i thought you could infer that since i have told you that i am a biochemist but obviously you are more interested in rambling than in intellectual discourse.
Because that is what you are doing, we have a discussion and a fairly good one, we've had that in many threads, then you leave and when you come back it's like talking to a completely different person. You're just rambling now and there is no use continuing this, i will give you one more chance for reasoned debate, after that i'll put you on my ignore list.
so hes saying my historical arguments are rambling. then argument from analogy guy comes on and goes:
Maybe he keeps coming off his medication. I'm not a scientist by training.
they high jack the thread and take it away from the historical arguments so it's about me and my personality and how bad I am.
