tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6538255877506581515.post783678389149411425..comments2023-11-22T09:00:59.909-08:00Comments on Atheistwatch: Stupid atheist tricks! no.897. Turning beautiful answer into a curseJoseph Hinman (Metacrock)http://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6538255877506581515.post-11732015950893606032013-06-02T06:13:37.725-07:002013-06-02T06:13:37.725-07:00what you were saying was truly unwise because you ...what you were saying was truly unwise because you made it seem that the actual fact of having to call out to God for help was the indication that God is bad. That's uttterly foolish. We sometimes will only seek the truth and seek God when thing shit rock bottom.<br /><br />If you don't want to know God and you refuse to listen and seek then you are saying "Ok let me be open the possibilities of accident and fate." You are saying "God go away and don't help me."<br /><br />there are some things that are more improtant than physical safety.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6538255877506581515.post-24478263634475032792013-06-02T06:11:36.430-07:002013-06-02T06:11:36.430-07:00It is utterly unwise to assume that God is bad bec...It is utterly unwise to assume that God is bad becuase waits to help you. God KNOWS BEST! if he waits it becuase he knows that's best! don't try to play God. you don't know! you can't make little analogies assume that our puny little human understanding is as good as God's.<br /><br />It's also fallacious to assume that God is not helping us every minute. for you know the reaosn you haven't been killed yet is because is keeping it from happening giving you ever extra minute to repent. God put me in your life so you can know the turth and repent and you don't want to listen. It's not arrogant becuase it's true of every Christian you know.<br /><br />We don't know what's going on. WE don' know what the stakes are or what the "cards hold" so to speak for the future. God does. So you just have to trust! don't trust men don't trust preachers and churches, trust God.<br /><br />We can't draw analogies between our own understanding and God's. I assume that God manages the circumstances of our lives to give us the optimum opportunity to seek the turth, we have to choose to listen.<br /><br />how about atheists on carm who refuse to read my articles and refuse to click on links believers provide. they are just turning their noses up at the circumstances God has arranged to bring them along.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6538255877506581515.post-600459305000263112013-06-01T10:16:09.313-07:002013-06-01T10:16:09.313-07:00And it was a completely valid point for me to make...And it was a completely valid point for me to make. If I saw someone in a dire condition and it was within my power to help them, I wouldn't wait until they asked for help. I would do it whether they asked or not, and I would consider any being who didn't help when it was within their power to be a morally inferior.<br /><br />There were no implications. I pointed out a fatal flaw in your description of your god as being morally perfect (at least I think it was you who said that in a separate thread), and you just brushed it aside as if it were unimportant. And that really ticks me off, especially when start slandering me on your blog for something I didn't even say or even imply.<br /><br />Andrew Jenningshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911748916356429532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6538255877506581515.post-8194119798121365252013-06-01T06:46:11.442-07:002013-06-01T06:46:11.442-07:00Ok first of all you need to learn something. There...Ok first of all you need to learn something. There's a dichotomy called "denotation--connotation." The <i>denotation</i> of word is it's literal meaning, the <i>connotation</i> is what the word implies. no you didn't literally say "it's a curse." the issue of believing about my experience is not important. I don't expect you to just accept it.<br /><br />the point is you repeatedly tried to turn the allegation of God answering my plea into an indictment of God's concern. As though becuase I had to ask that proves he doesn't care. that's what is so outrageous about it.<br /><br />do you undersatnd? It's like nothing could ever be good enough for you. That implication is clearly there in your words. you can't get around it. you are actually talking us off the real subject,which I talk about, to a fake subject which I didn't bring up. I never complained about you not believing my story.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6538255877506581515.post-3807679640007560212013-05-31T20:27:10.465-07:002013-05-31T20:27:10.465-07:00And I will gladly do so, Metacrock, and yes, this ...And I will gladly do so, Metacrock, and yes, this is Fanghur. I never said anything other than that I was unconvinced that your brother's supposed 'come down' experience, assuming that it actually did occur as you describe, which I'm sure you can understand that given that you are just some person that I'm conversing with online, I have sound reason to be skeptical if nothing else, had anything to do with the supernatural. That's it.<br /><br />I most definitely did not say anything remotely suggesting that I thought that the fact that your brother allegedly got better was some kind of 'curse', as you accused me of doing. And from what little I know of you, I don't believe for a second that you could have so greatly misunderstood what I wrote as to come to such a false conclusion. I am not buying that.<br /><br />I am fully willing to accept that you believe that what you say is true for the sake of discussion. But whether it actually is true is something that I am absolutely not justified in believing simply because you assert it. <br /><br />That is all I was trying to say in this discussion, and yet you made me out to be some kind of moron. I don't appreciate that, Metacrock. CARM's VP is obviously indoctrinated to the point of perversity, seeing as she banned me until tomorrow for being honest, but I would have thought that you at least could have had the intellectual honesty to at the very least describe our exchange honestly. And that is my rant for today.Andrew Jenningshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911748916356429532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6538255877506581515.post-4185839016474127342013-05-30T11:52:30.571-07:002013-05-30T11:52:30.571-07:00oK Fang, I guess your name is Andy, I'll give ...oK Fang, I guess your name is Andy, I'll give you a change to explain what I'm lying about and how I distorted what you said. go on and give it. I don't know why you didn't before.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6538255877506581515.post-36294588401222959202013-05-30T10:22:27.160-07:002013-05-30T10:22:27.160-07:00Way to completely miss the point of everything I s...Way to completely miss the point of everything I said, completely misrepresent me, and lie outright. That is very mature of you, Metacrock, really. Isn't lying supposed to be a sin?Andrew Jenningshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911748916356429532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6538255877506581515.post-16327002330396155022013-05-27T03:37:19.606-07:002013-05-27T03:37:19.606-07:00Right on. I wonder how many of them even conceptua...Right on. I wonder how many of them even conceptually believe in truth. They get so in the habit of cynicism they can't think other wise. Joseph Campbell said "cynicism is confused with insight by the cowardly mind."Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6538255877506581515.post-72871397761899980212013-05-27T03:37:03.541-07:002013-05-27T03:37:03.541-07:00Right on. I wonder how many of them even conceptua...Right on. I wonder how many of them even conceptually believe in truth. They get so in the habit of cynicism they can't think other wise. Joseph Campbell said "cynicism is confused with insight by the cowardly mind."Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6538255877506581515.post-48886558489685869542013-05-26T17:40:43.494-07:002013-05-26T17:40:43.494-07:00What is wrong with these people? I don't get t...What is wrong with these people? I don't get them. <br /><br />You are right: Atheism is all about being cynical. It has nothing to do with truth. 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